It has been alledged that there was a bust up in the Bok camp whereby a player from the Cheetah's union knocked a player from Western Province out cold after a difference in opinions. The incident is meant to have happened in recent weeks.

The player from the Cheetahs can only be Juan Smith - apparently he's quite a tough character.

According to Jerry Collins, Juan Smith is the toughest player he has encountered.

It is at a stage where the players involved will not even be in each others company. Even as bad as not being on the field at the same time.

Hmm...who's on the bench from Province?, Louw and January....and normally Bekker? 

COME ON JAKES!! GIVE US MORE!! WHO WAS IT!!!

Juan Smith is also a coward for pushing the ref and injuring him in the process. I had a moerse lotta respect for him before, but that evaporated with his cowardly action.

only wp boytie i can think juan smith would druk is jean de villiers
he pretty vocal at times, or maybe the newbie on the block francios louw
competition is healthy, i doubt it was janurie as he was probably not up with play to get a snotty..haha

Josh K wrote: Juan Smith is also a coward for pushing the ref and injuring him in the process. I had a moerse lotta respect for him before, but that evaporated with his cowardly action.

do you feel the same way about percy then as well?

Josh K wrote: Juan Smith is also a coward for pushing the ref and injuring him in the process. I had a moerse lotta respect for him before, but that evaporated with his cowardly action.

True JK,ma hyt hom vrekgeskrik,Smith that is, and was quick 2 apologise
but the deed was done.

Thats the same as hitting the ref after the match and then saying sorry, its not good enough. You dont things like that at all. It showed me the difference between the Kiwi mindset and the SA mindset especially when things dont go right. Its a win at all costs mentality and it seems that it does not matter what we do to get there, couple that with your sense of entitlement , its formula for disaster, and it seems that we accept things like that on this forum.

Josh K wrote: Thats the same as hitting the ref after the match and then saying sorry, its not good enough. You dont things like that at all. It showed me the difference between the Kiwi mindset and the SA mindset especially when things dont go right. Its a win at all costs mentality and it seems that it does not matter what we do to get there, couple that with your sense of entitlement , its formula for disaster, and it seems that we accept things like that on this forum.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Jerome Kaino was guilty of the self same thing? Yet you have no comment on that matter now do you?

Remember not long ago than Lawrence Sephaka was cited and suspended for a similar offence like this....

Josh K wrote: Juan Smith is also a coward for pushing the ref and injuring him in the process. I had a moerse lotta respect for him before, but that evaporated with his cowardly action.

Josh!! Come on brah!! It was obviously an accident, the Ref kept getting himself in the way, and Juan apologised to him a few times afterwards and seemed damn sincere about it too!! How many times at every level have you not seen similar accidental occurrences, how about Breyton Paulse actually TACKLING the Ref in that one Bok game a few years ago??!! I myself have on a couple of occassions had to "push" or "bump" a Ref out of the way to get to a play or tackle situation - it happens, man!! Please don't become like so many other AB supporters and try to run the Boks down at every opportunity, ek ken jou morsie soe nie!! 

Accidentally push the ref .. .come on guys ... julle watch mos baie die games oor en oor .... watch it again and tell me if it was an accident. What if the ref had gotten seriously injured ???

You need to take off your green sunglasses and see the incident for what it is , an act of cowardice ..

Jakes ... Im not speaking about any All Black here man, stick to the bloody topic.

Please post a clip of the Kaino incident to me , not sure when this was.